This piece came together effortless, with no second-guessing or overthinking. It was one of those creations that flowed effortlessly like water; Carlos sent a jam session that he and Laraaji did together.

We immediately had a vision. We took their jam session and added big spaces that we filled in with our electronics and bass.

We had a phone call and then Carlos said that Laraaji wanted to add a meditation. Honestly this was a dream come true. When Carlos sent the meditation back and we listened we were transported to a mystical place. Egoless knowing. It reminded us of our own mystical experiences, at the edge of life and death.

He was tapping into this place and riffing a mantra about a feeling when you’re at the abyss of the ineffable — a knowing that we all come from this place and will return there.

When we finished, there was a feeling in the studio that we caught successfully captured a vibe, like a butterfly. We both said, this is perfect. We don’t care if anyone likes it or not, it just is what it is.

This piece is the most psychedelic of all of the meditations. Infinite Sun can take you to the mystical place without any drugs.